national qualifications i ve heard that if more than 8 players comes from same country, they ll need to play 1 v 1 tournament.
i suggest that those qualifications should be in 3 v 3 games, where players will team up on their own.
in our country (and i think not only) we have such a problem that some best players dont like each other at all, or have completly diffrent gamestyle. they just wont create a good team
Fall-Dakkon- 06-30-2005
You bend Usher! :twisted:
But probably, you have reason... SUCCESSES because probably, on it already not start in TWWC.
POLAND GLORY!!!
NimbleNota- 06-30-2005
Moved to suggestion area And please read the qualifaction process fully
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[--DCoV--]naiver- 06-30-2005
NimbleNota, I thinke we've read qualifications process very carefully :wink: But this is Suggestion and Feedback division, so please relate to Usher's proposal and express your opinion. I'd be very grateful :D
Greetings
TWWC-Admin- 06-30-2005
Sorry but a 3vs3 system for qualifying will not be brought into affect it is unfair to say the least, grouping together randomly 3 people. What if some people decide not to show up or refuse to fight as a team. Then the other members suffer.
PL Usher- 07-01-2005
i said not radomly, but let the players create teams on their own
for example one team from poland would be Sacred Company Clan, second Vistula Warriors, third -the group of free players ... etc
and then let them play a little inner country tournament.
this is 3 v 3 competition, so i dont get why the best team would be chosen by 1v1 games.
players good in 1v1 arent always good in 3 v 3. there is also a problem with cooperation in such matched team, what is i think the most important in good team
NimbleNota- 07-01-2005
m8 Sorry but the system is not going to be changed, not all players are chosen by the 1v1 tournament just 5, a captain is then selected by those 5 members, the captain then choses 3 additional players from the pool of available players from that country. As it states in the format forum..
PL Usher- 07-01-2005
i know but its just wrong for me. please understand that
firstly - realy the best player in 1v1 is not automaticly the best capitain of team, maybe he even cant play well in 3v3 games.
secondly -moreover there will probably be 2 or more best (werified by qualifications) players in a country that dont like each other and they wont be able to cooperate on the battlefield
thirdly, im sure that there will be better well harmonious clan team from one clan (and coutry) that will defeat the team of players chosen by 1 v 1 qualifications
why you want to get weak representations
4th
if this would be a 1 v 1 tournament would you make 3 v 3 qualifications???
TWWC-Admin- 07-01-2005
firstly - realy the best player in 1v1 is not automaticly the best capitain of team,
None said the best 1vs1 fighter would be the captain, m8 please read the format.
seckondly -moreover there will probably be 2 or more best (werified by qualifications) players in a country that dont like each other and they wont be able to cooperate on the battlefield
If they don't co-operate there is 8 people on the team and the captain has control over some matters, and I think everyone will try to work together as their countries honour is at stake.
thirdly, im sure that there will be better well harmonious clan team from one clan (and coutry) that will defeat the team of players chosen by 1 v 1 qualifications
why you want to get weak representations
Not all clans have members living in the same country, nor is this a clan vs clan event. People from poland from clans that are not entirely polish (like Saint-Avenger, and Dakkon) or Polish ronins would be at a huge disadvantage if forced to group together and fight clans like Sc and VW who are entirely Polish and play together daily.
Noone wants "weak representations" but we do want a fair tournament to all involved ;)
4th
if this would be a 1 v 1 tournament would you make 3 v 3 qualifications???
You may not like the format for the tournament but we the staff see no fairer or more effecient way.
PL Usher- 07-01-2005
if you are going to make qualifications in poland that will be a huge inner tournament. about 25 players have registered. you are going to make a cup qualifications then you ll surely wont find the real best 5 players as you say. if it will be a group tournament then it will take few months.
however even if the 'free players' wont team up and as you say they deserve to play in representation, THEY WILL HAVE TO TEAM UP ANYWAY
- so find the best polish team in the way you think is best, and let our -polish- SC team fight it. Then everything will resolve
{SacredBand}Karol- 07-01-2005
Usher we will talk about that in polish forum.
ChaosWarrior- 07-03-2005
In history sometimes happen aliances betwean leaders who dont like each other and can't cooperate well. To protect your country you have to team up with somebody who can be your enemy in other situation. So 1vs1 eliminations will simulate this very good in my opinion and can be fun as well.
PL Usher- 07-04-2005
trust me, the 1 v 1 quali will take months in poland.
the 5 clans + 1 team of free players of poland have given their squads for representation. We all have decided that the best polish team will be the selected by mini tournament
the conclusion was that there is no big diffrence in game level between a group of best players in poland, but they create diffrent teams. there is no need to find few best players and force them to team up and cooperate, if there are equal teams already. this will save time and really will allow to find our best polish team
whoever it is
WOTESirSparhawkI- 07-14-2005
a comment from an outsider - two actually
I agree that the best 1v1 players are not necessarily the best team players
In our Clan we have some 1v1 players who rarely lose at 1v1 but are only average team players. we also have some - like myself who are reasonable 1v1 players but MUCH better Team players. so i can see your point there on the 1v1 selection process BUT - you sign up you play by the rules - not so?
There has been much talk here about players who don't like each other not playing well together if selected
Sorry BUT - are we mature players or small children?
If any given player feels that he could not play on a team with another player who has a good chance of selection , he should do the honourable thing and withdraw from the selection process because this about Playing as a Team for your country - if you cant play in a team with others you should not ask for selection
Sorry if that is too blunt for you but it's the truth
playing Clan vs Clan for Polish selection won't get you the best team it'll only provide the best two Clan teams
Go ahead - the rest of us will be pleased that the competition isn't as tough as it could have been LOL
I have played vs Polish Clans
many good players - pick your best guys - put Clan pride to one side and get the BEST Polish team that you can :D
TWWC-Admin- 07-14-2005
The Polish federation imo is to be applauded for having agreed communitywide to this method of qualification... By having the winning team be the first 4 and then picking the rest as they have spoken, they are sure to bring a team of very high quality... After all if a team can win a qualification tourney or process, isnt that the best team anyways???....Seems to me all other countries should get to qualifying or start a thread to talk about whatever process they are going to use.......
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